Post by JellorePost by AbubakrPost by Stephen O'ConnellPost by BobPost by Stephen O'ConnellPost by Paul CPost by JABPost by AbubakrPost by JABPost by AbubakrIn the way that the Laws of the game do not allow it. A handball
requires a movement of the hand/arm towards the ball,
*deliberately* intending to hit it with said hand/arm. A ball
being played onto an already outstretched arm is not a handball
according to the Laws of the game. If you think this is unfair,
fine, go compaign for its changing. But as the Laws stand now,
there was no handball.
As his arm clearly did move towards the ball it was a penalty --
are you just plain blind?
His arm was already outstretched before the ball was even kicked,
are YOU blind?
Jesus H Christ is was a penalty; he moved his arm so just how more
clear cut do you want it to be -- if you didn't want Chelsea to win
then fair enough just say so. Please don't pretend that somehow the
penalties decisions were correct as the weren't. The ref had a
dreadful game unless you 'saw' something else?
I wouldn't bother arguing with him. There are none so blind as those
who will not see.
Some poeple have glasses that lets them only see what they want to
see! Even the Barcelona manager agreed that the refereeing was poor
and he could understand the Chelsea frustrations. The Pique handball
was a blatant penalty in any country on any weekend of the season, no
question.
So you also agree with Guardiola when he complained about refereeing
at Nou Camp?
Barcelona could have had a penalty, some refs would have given it. But I
don't agree that Barcelona were bullied, neither do I believe that he said
even that. His team were not given the space to play, and they didn't have
the class to break down an organised Chelsea defence. There is no rule that
says every team has to play pretty football, neither is there a rule that
says you must let a team play pretty football against you. But there are
rules that say handball in the box is a penalty, and bringing a player down
in the box is a penalty.
Yes a handball in the box is penalty so is fouling a player in said
area, problem is none of this happened in the match. There is a
difference between ball to hand and hand to ball that is crux of a
handball decision, something that is obviously lost on the "EPL was
hard done by brigade".
The real issue here is the dreadful inconsistency of referring. A
number of refs, including the fool who officiated at Stamford Bridge
may well have dished out 3 or 4 pens on a different day. Have you not
seen, hand on heart, pens given in similar situations. I can think of
the pen that Chelsea was awarded at the end of the 2008 EPL season
against Man Utd. Michael Carrick was clearly trying to get his arm out
of the way of a cross. That is ball to hand as you have explained. Pen
given.
I think the Carrick one was way more of a penalty than Pique's. Of
course Man Utd fans well never admit that. But yes, on any given day,
referee's can and do make bad decisions and give penalties where there
wasn't any or miss otherwise blatant infringements. About consistency,
one thing that referee's have been loath to do and they have been
consistent throughout this season of the CL is give penalties for tugs
or minor infringements, this is for sure. Bosingwa wasn't called in
the first leg, Arsenal got away with an almost murderous non-call
against Roma, Torres was not called for his tug at Pepe's shoulder
which lead to a goal.
I seriously don't think this ref had as bad game as all these people
(mostly of the EPL fanboy variety and their media) are making out.
This was a tough game involving one of the most cynical, win at all
costs, dishonest bullies in modern times in Chelsea. Of course they're
going to blow their tops if a couple of decisions go against them,
decisions which they are used to getting. Fuck them. They should learn
to get on with officials better by actually playing the game with a
modicum of sportsmanship. You reap what you sow.